how much did brady make to get beaten by the ravens up in new england? you've got the nfl owners next week. i think you should ask every one of them if their player did as much for their teams as lloyd did for goldman. >> that's what i was telling them. stop -- you know, sorkin was beating him up. >> yeah, you know -- >> looked like lloyd was -- >> the workers should mean the production. >> it's all about fairness. >> and you came up with the rap that, you did better than everybody else, but you're not doing as good as letterman. >> years of paying them. >> i hope this isn't -- >> not enough. it's not enough. but if the price of oil goes up, and that has nothing to do with an oil company ceo, i don't see why that leads them to be paid. likewise, it's not the case now, but during the crisis, the government saved these guys' butts. and that returned them to profitability. and then their pay went up based on their profitability. >> all i'm trying to -- >> it's a case by case basis. >> lloyd denies that. i'm with you, though, austin, i believe that. but at t